What does it mean to know God?
What does it mean to know God? How does someone know God?? Can we know everything about God? Can we know his will? How? Is it important to know God? Why? Why doesn't the Church stress a relationship or knowing God more than it does other doctrines or practices? How can the church the importance of relationship and knowing God more? How has your church done this?
What do you think?
Share your thoughts.
posted by preacherman @ 8:44:00 AM
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Jesus said; "if you do not know that I am He, you will die in your sins" (John 8:24).
If you think that God is three persons, then you don't know God.
If you think that Jehovah is God, then you don't know Him and you will die in your sins.
To know God is to know Jesus, and to know Jesus is to be born again and know that He is your Father who is in heaven.
To know God is to worship the Lord Jesus and no one else.
Yes, you can know everything about God.
(John 17:3) Jesus said, "and this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." And we are in Him who is true- even in His Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life" (1 John 5:20).
Paul
"Why doesn't the Church stress a relationship or knowing God more than it does other doctrines or practices?"
The churches don't know God, if they would know God, then they would preach the Lord Jesus Christ.
But as it is they preach "God", yea, which God??
They preach the Lord Jesus to be an attachment of God.
They preach Jesus to be the third fellow of their many gods, a disgrace and an insult to the living God Jesus Christ.
And even that is still not enough, so they preach the real (true) God to be Jehovah.
But again, the Lord is not mocked, He will give to them exactly what they deserve.
If you would have eyes to see, you would see it.
"Can we know His will?"
We certainly can and we do know His will.
How can anyone know what to do, if we don't know His will.
Paul
The Muslim churches say that they know God and his name is Allah.
The Jehovah Witness church also says that they know God and his name is Jehovah.
The Christian church says that no one can know God because he is infinite and he has many names.
All those churches dishonor the true God who is my heavenly Father Jesus Christ the only God (Jude 1:4+ 1:25 and Rom.5:9).
The Word of God says that it is Jesus Christ who is the creator of heaven and earth and everything in it and nothing came into being apart from Jesus Christ (John 1:1…), so then, all other gods are false gods whatever their name is.
And everyone who believes in any one of those gods will perish with their god, but everyone who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ will be saved, and there is salvation in no other Name than Jesus Christ.
Paul
Do people in churches know God?
Well, I have to say that most of them don't.
If you don't believe me, then in your next prayer meeting listen how they pray.
When they pray to God, they pray and address this unknowable God, whoever that might be and at the end they say this magical formula "In Jesus Name".
Now tell me, do they pray to this unknowable big God through a little god Jesus?
Or did this big God Jehovah really have a Son, sort of a middle man where they have to pray through him to get to the big God?
Sort of like a door mat.
Weird, isn't it.
I think the problem is not with those who pray, but with their Pastors and teachers over them, they are Shepherd's who feed themselves and not their flocks (Jude 8:12 +Isa.56:10-11). Or worse, they don't know God for themselves and will die in their sins.
Kind regards
Paul
It is written, that ALL who do NOT KNOW God will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord! (2 Thes.1:8) and the Word of God cannot be broken.
If that is true, should we not make every effort and priority above everything else to know God?
I do not mean to know about God, but to really know God.
To know God is to know the Lord Jesus Christ in a personal way and not in a theoretical way.
My God is a jealous God (Exod. 34:14), His Name is Jesus Christ the most wonderful Name, the Name which is above all other names, so that at the Name of Jesus Christ every knee should bow (even yours) and every tongue confess (including yours) that Jesus Christ is the Lord God the Almighty, the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last and beside Him there is no other God, and that whosoever shall call upon His Name shall be saved.
Paul
The Lord Jesus said in Hosea 4:6.
My people are perishing (destroyed) for lack of knowledge.
This is a serious charge from the Lord Jesus to all of us who are claiming to be Disciples of Christ, and it makes no difference whether you are a Pastor, Preacher, Christian pew-sitter or Pope.
It simply means that everyone who does not know God will be destroyed with sickness, disease, pestilence and calamities of every kind imaginable. And that is for all of their families, their children and children's children, to the second and third generations because they do not know God and would not believe in Him (Jesus Christ the Lord).
Out of all those who perish, only those who call upon the NAME of JESUS will be saved. Then they have passed out of that circle of sin, destruction and death and have entered into eternal life and they will never perish because Jesus is their "Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6)".
Loving kindness
Paul
The center, the focus of "catholicism", and the multitude of religious systems that declare themselves to be "christian", is their version of The Messiah which they call their "christ".
Yet it seems the center, the focal point and desire of those who would follow The Messiah on "the narrow way", would be the same focus and desire that The Messiah had.
And The Messiah's focus and desire?
The Messiah's focus was on "His GOD and Father" and The Messiah's "GOD and Father" IS also "The GOD and Father" of The Messiah's brethren. (John 20:17)
The Messiah testified:
John 5:19 "Then answered The Messiah and said unto them, Truly, Truly, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of His own self, but what He see's The Father do, for whatever The Father does, The Son does likewise."
John 12:49-50 "I have not spoken of myself, but The Father WHO sent Me, HE gave Me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
And I know that HIS commandment is Life Everlasting, therefore whatever I speak, even as The Father said unto Me, so I speak."
John 17:8 "For I have given unto them The Words which YOU gave Me, and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from YOU, and they have believed that YOU did send Me."
And the focus of The Messiah was on Heavenly things, that which is Spirit, that which is Eternal, for The Good News that The Messiah bore witness unto was "The Kingdom of Heaven(GOD) is at hand"!
And The Messiah desired above all else:
"Father, not My will, But THY Will Be Done"!
And The Messiah after He "arose from among the dead" testified, "I ascend unto My Father and your Father, unto My GOD and your GOD".......(John20:17)
Father Help! and HE does.......
And your focus? Your desire?
Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(confusion) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "The WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one"(1 John 5:19) indeed and Truth.......(1 John 5:19)
Thankfully Truth IS, a lie never was and is not.......
Abide in Truth....... francis
If anyone thinks that you can bypass the Lord Jesus Christ, that would make it impossible for you to know God,
The Scripture says that Jesus is the "Mighty God" (Isa.9:6).
Why do you say that there is another God the Father?
In the same passage the Lord Jesus is called the "Everlasting Father".
How then can you say that the Father is not Jesus?
If anyone of you cannot see the Father in the Lord Jesus Christ, then you definitely don't know God, and if you believe in a god, then that would be a false god. If your God is not the Lord Jesus Christ, then by necessity, Satan is the god you believe in.
Satan is the god of this world (2 Cor.4:4) and many are those who believe in him without knowing it and he leads the whole world astray (Rev.12:9).
For this reason you have to make your calling and election sure (2 Peter 1:10), by this I mean, that you have to make sure whether you know God and believe in the only true God Jesus Christ the Lord.
The way is narrow and only few are those who find it (Mat. 7:14).
If you lack in knowledge, wisdom and understanding, then please ask the Lord Jesus, in Him is all wisdom, knowledge and understanding and He will lead you into all the truth.
Paul
The Lord Jesus is so wonderful!
At the right time He has given you a confirmation that my testimony is true.
Please read the comment of 'ElderChild (Francis').
Can you see how Francis demotes the Lord Jesus to a mere man? He also portrays the Lord Jesus as only a servant to this unknowable big God the Father.
Francis also thinks that this "Messiah" can do absolutely nothing of his own, unless this other God, this unknowable God tell him what to do and say.
Also note; he didn't mention His Name at all, that is because Francis does not know God.
Yes he quotes the Scriptures, but so does the devil (Luke 4:10).
Again, I like to say that anyone who deviates from the Lord Jesus Christ is on his ways to destruction, but everyone who ONLY believes in the Lord Jesus Christ will be saved.
Jesus said that the way that leads to life is narrow and only few are those who find it, and He made it clear that He is the way, the truth and the life.
Paul
The doctrine of God is the most important doctrine far above all other and it is the pivoting point between life and death, health and sickness, blessing and curse, salvation and damnation.
Therefore it is the duty for anyone who claims to be a disciple of Jesus Christ to make sure that you believe in the right God.
The right God is the true God (1 John 5:20).
The wrong god is the devil (2 Cor.4:4).
The right God is NOT three people in one God!
The Trinity is a satanic teaching and at best stupid to believe and only the naïve will be lead astray by such a destructive doctrine.
To believe that Jehovah is God is equally destructive since the God of the Bible never ever was called Jehovah.
The name Jehovah was rendered out of the four letters "YHWH" (Ex.3:14) by Satan so that you would not believe in Jesus who is God over all (Rom. 9:5).
And NO!! Do not think that you can believe in Jesus and in Jehovah that would be idolatry and no idolater will be in heaven, but guard your hearts with all diligence, it is the wellspring of life (Prov. 4:23).
Paul
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