Monday, August 20, 2007

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I haven't posted in a while because I have been in a lot of pain. The pain some nights has been so severe that the hardest medications don't work. I went to the neurologist and he told me that the pain was good. "Good pain?" I thought. What can be good about pain? He told me that the pain was a sign of my nerves regenerating themselves. It was a sign that something good was happening to my body. One night at 3 a.m. I was in so much pain in my legs and feet that I was crying and my wife was rubbing them. She was searching in desperation and longing for something to do to ease my body from the torment I was in. I had to keep thinking in my mind that it was good pain. Over the next few days I experienced fatigue. I rested. The pain was finally tolerable and I slept; my body getting the rest that it needed.

I then thought of the spiritual connection of pain. We all experience pain in our lives in one form or another. As Christians we suffer because of our faith. It comes in many different forms and ways. The pain my seem severe at times. It may keep you up at night and have the ones you love longing for ways that they can help. But listen to me, it is good pain. Good pain? What do you mean good pain? The pains that we go through in life strengthen our faith and relationship with God. It renews. It restores. It refreshes; strengthens us. Listen to what God says about suffering and hardships:

1 Peter 4:12-16;19 "Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trials you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of God rests on you. If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even a meddler. However if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name. So then, those who suffer according to God's will should commit themselves to their faithful creator and continue to do good."(NIV)
James 1:2-3;12 "Consider it pure joy, my brothers when you face trials of many kinds because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete lacking nothing. Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him." (NIV)
2 Corinthians 1:3-ff, "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves have received from God. For just as the sufferings of Christ flow over into our lives, so also Christ our comfort overflows. If we are distressed, it is for your comfort and salvation; and we are comforted, it is your comfort, which produces in you patient endurance of the same sufferings we suffer." (NIV)

So going through painful circumstances in life can help us grow in our relationship with Christ. Have you experienced pain lately? How has it affected your life? Has it made you closer to God? Why or why not? Do you pray and lean on God when you face painful situations in life? Why or why not? What happens to a person when they don't learn that pain in life is something good spiritually? How does pain strengthen our faith? Our relationship with God? What would happen if we never did experience pain in life? What would life be like? When you see your brother or sister in Christ suffering is there anything you can do to help them? Do Christians do that today in the Church? Should they?


Blogger dbbjavance said...

One time I suffered great pain on behalf of my friend. During moments of anguish I wrestled with how long it would take the pain to leave -- hoping for better times ahead. But then the Holy Spirit rested upon me and led me to a different thought: Share in Christ's sufferings. So I yielded to the pain; thanked Christ for the grace to share in his suffering; allowed the groaning of my spirit to be interpreted by the Holy Spirit, as I trusted his intercession according to God's will. I am glad I had the pain, for through that experience I enjoyed the comfort and fellowship of my Lord, and became stronger in my trust. I do not fault my friend, for life is complex and he went through enormous pain as well. The amazing thing is that he also felt alone except for the presence of the Lord. Thus the Lord strengthened our bond in the Spirit by allowing us to share a moment together when all we had was the help of the Lord.

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Blogger Ted M. Gossard said...

Preacherman, So glad to hear you're better. Did pray for you, but I didn't realize how severe it is what you're going through.

Pain is good, like you so well say here. It helps me know something is wrong or awakens me to something or it's a response in me to something that I perceive to be wrong.

Then we can find God and his rightness or help somehow, in the matter. I see this repeatedly in different forms about different matters. Thanks for sharing on this, brother.

5:14 AM  
Blogger Joe said...

preacherman: Pain, of course, is one of the results of original sin.

To yield to the pain and learn to live past it in Christ is difficult, but one of the most faith inspiring things we can do.

Praise God there will come a time when there is no more pain, sorrow, tears, etc.

6:51 AM  
Blogger Kansas Bob said...

What would happen if we never did experience pain in life?

I think that we'd be strong on the outside and weak on the inside.

Your post moved me. My wife has MS and experiences very intense nerve pain. I can probably relate more with your wife as she stands by pretty helpless watching one she loves so much experience so much pain. I don't know what I would do without prayer.

7:51 AM  
Blogger mmlace said...

Hey peacherman! Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment! I'll be sure to remember that when I win the lottery! ;) Have a great week, much love in Him!

8:06 AM  
Blogger jel said...

didn't know ya was in that much pain?

lifting ya and your family up prayer!

8:26 AM  
Blogger Falantedios said...

There is no way to describe it, is there?

Philip Yancey and Dr Paul Brand have a marvelous series on this topic: Fearfully and Wonderfully Made, In His Image, and The Gift of Pain. If you'd like to borrow them (because I know I won't be able to read them again this year), let me know.

Dr. Brand was a pioneer in the battle against leprosy. For the truly leprous, the irony for us is that what we'd love to get rid of, they'd love to have.

Let me know.

in HIS love,

10:38 AM  
Blogger japhy said...

In the face of "health and wealth gospels", the truth stands out. Israel, God's chosen people, suffered plenty. Jesus, God Incarnate, Word made flesh, suffered. And Christians for nearly 2000 years have been suffering, from Stephen, the first martyr, down to those of us today.

This suffering isn't always from persecution. Sometimes it is from illness, or sorrow, or misfortune. But we can be joyful though we suffer, we can persevere, because Jesus sanctified suffering: he made it holy, he made it redemptive, he gave it meaning. Paul wrote about it in his letters plenty, and Jesus spoke of us carrying our crosses and following him.

We should offer our suffering up as part of our sacrifice of praise, as our ministry in the royal priesthood of Christ.

10:38 AM  
Blogger Terry said...

I'm praying for you. When I had surgery last fall, I appreciated the people who called and e-mailed me to let me know that they were praying for me. I learned that it makes a difference knowing that people care and pray. Now I am eager to pray for people and to let them know it so that they do not feel alone.

4:07 PM  
Blogger Alan said...

Hi preacherman,

I think the primary benefit of pain is that it keeps us from loving our lives too much in this world. Bring on the next one!

Sorry you're having to endure this. I pray God will make it all better soon.

4:18 PM  
Blogger laymond said...

God bless you Kinney I can only pray that God will give you and your family the strength to carry the cross placed upon you, through no fault of your own. we love you, may God bless.

4:30 PM  
Blogger cwinwc said...

I suffered some "inflicted pain" due to our proposal to merge with the local Christian Church that ended up not happening. Initially being un-invited from the Bible Camp that we had been a part of for 25 years was pain, unwanted pain. But as you so eloquently said, it is this kind of pain that causes our faith to grow and now I'm glad I experienced "good pain."

Good post brother.

5:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kinney -

I am SO sorry to hear you've been in such terrible pain. I pray that the worst of it is now over and that you'll continue to heal without such distressful symptoms. I cannot begin to imagine going through what you've experienced.

I'm glad my blog post of yesterday helped you and that you commented last night about it.

As you may know, I've been diabetic now more than 37 years and have lost a lot of feeling in my feet and legs. However, sometimes I have sharp, intense neuropathy pains in my feet, especially, that are very painful.

Other than that, though, I have major problems at times because I don't feel much, if any pain, in my feet and legs and even other parts of my body. The lack of pain has meant that I've suffered hurts at times, including a broken bone in my foot, that I could not and did not feel happen and which caused months of recuperation to overcome.

So, while I don't like to suffer any more than anyone else, I know that at least the capability to feel pain is necessary and useful to us. It can be a blessing, although I don't think that the kind of pain you've been in is in any way necessary or useful (from a selfish standpoint!)

I pray you do well and continue to heal without so much pain, anyway.

Much love to you and your family.


of Finding Direction: The Wind Vane Chronicles

6:17 PM  
Blogger Ted M. Gossard said...

One thing I want to add though, is that I wouldn't ever want to minimize the fact that pain hurts!

We never want it, even though for certain reasons it can be good, or in your case indicate something good.

8:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thank you for posting and telling all about what you have been going through and what your are thinking about. (it is true, i was wondering about you.) i am going to be talking with God tonight, i do not have a scheduled date, but, He is usually always in, and i will be sure to mention you and your wife to Him.

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11:58 PM  
Blogger Falantedios said...

Remember, dear brother, how alike your sufferings are to the suffering of the Lord.

He suffered because the world was broken.
You suffer because the world is broken.
He did nothing to deserve his suffering.
You've done nothing to deserve your suffering.

Keep your feet firmly planted in the power of our Lord that is made perfect in weakness. Use your weakness to further the gospel. "These are my sufferings, endured for you."

in HIS love,

12:29 PM  
Blogger Monalea said...

Wow, 'good pain'? Is that an oxymoron? I have never considered good pain, except my husband is a pain and sometimes he is good. Thank you for sharing and I hope your pain has eased.


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Blogger TREY MORGAN said...

You always seen to make me think, challenge me and encourage me over here. That's why I always like hanging out.

Thanks for posting and sharing your heart.

10:48 PM  
Blogger Jason Campbell said...

Sorry to hear about what you are going through--I had a close friend go through some similar chronic pain a few years back. It was a season in his life that lasted a solid 6-7 months and it really changed him (temporarily). It was hard to know how best to walk with a brother through times like that; I mostly just tried to reassure him and empathize with him as best as I could. But what you said in your post is true--pain is a real part of our spiritual formation and can bring about fruit no other situation can. Can't say it makes anybody suffering actually feel any better about it though.

May God grant you the limitless strength of His Spirit in this time of trial. And may the glittering light of Christ's risen glory be your polar star.

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Blogger Bird said...

Praying for you, preacherman. Good post. I look forward to reading more of your blog.

8:17 AM  
Blogger Tim Lewis said...

Thanks for your encouraging words. I didn't even know I had a regular reader. Your posts are quite open and thought provoking and I appreciate the questions you ask as if we all have something to contribute. I pray for continual improvement in your health.

9:20 AM  
Blogger Danny said...

Very, very sorry to hear about your current struggles, but I much appreciate your perspective on it.

I pray that you will only continue to get better!

3:03 PM  
Blogger Royce Ogle said...


Thanks for visiting my site and for you always kind comments.

You know, I am far more approving of pain and suffering as aids to spiritual growth when someone else is having the pain and suffering. When I read how you have suffered and the Apostle Paul I say, yep there is great value in suffering. But then I get an ingrown toe nail and you wouldn't believe the whining!

Well, I love you brother. You are a blessing to me and many, many others.

Grace to you,
Royce Ogle

5:11 PM  
Blogger The Preacher's Household: said...

Very touching post.
I had a time in college that I was in deep spiritual/emotional pain because my world seem to be falling apart around me. I can not tell you how much strength I gained from a night on my knees crying in agony. I will never forget that night.

If you suffer from chronic pain from your illness, have you considered a pain specialist? James has a relative (Dr. Randolph) that is a doctor that specializes in pain management. I think he works out of UMC in Lubbock. If you want more info contact me on my blog and I'll see what I can do. I do not know what would qualify you to be a patient of his.

I too get a lot of encouragement out of the song, "Turn your eyes upon Jesus" maybe because it is an answer to most pains.

My prayer is that God will bless you with a pain free night.

7:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there is just so many different kinds of pain. and so easy to hold on to it...or be afraid of it. it is such a wonder when God can turn it into a blessing that also brings glory to His name. when we realize that all have burdens and we can also realize that we can see Jesus in these burdens in others and in ourselves. we take care of others and others take care of us. care is given and recieved. through pain we understand other people's pain. we understand our need for God. we understand that Jesus went through more. sometimes we know that where no one else can reach, or be with us, or understand our personal need, there is God. we begin to understand that God is who we can trust in, through everything. when no one can do anything for you, and there are those moments, lean into God really hard and rest in Him.

2:21 AM  
Blogger Ted M. Gossard said...

Preacherman, Am praying. Hope it's going better for you.

5:41 AM  
Blogger Stoned-Campbell Disciple said...

Just wanted to let you know that I pray for you often.

Bobby Valentine

6:12 PM  
Blogger jel said...

may U and yours have a blessed weekend!! :)

6:45 PM  
Blogger Milly said...

Praying for you brother

11:23 PM  
Blogger Neva said...

Your post beautifully illustrates how it is possible to "count it pure joy when you face various trials". Without an eternal perspective it is impossible to acknowledge such a thing as "good pain". It seems that biblically pain is associated with either growth or humility (of course there was discipline and punishment, also). I found that it was during the most painful times of my life, I grew the most.
From a social work perspective, pain is often a catalyst to change and that is most often a good thing.
Great thoughts Kinney, I am sorry you are hurting though but from other posts, I am convinced that "though outwardly you are wasting away, inwardly you are being renewed day by day".
Peace and comfort my friend, peace and comfort.

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You go preacherman.

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Blogger Terry said...

How are you doing? I'm still praying for you.

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Blogger preacherman said...

I want to thank everyone for the encouraging comments and prayers. The pain that I have been having is good pain. I have drawn closer to God. Praying more. Trusting in Him. He has provided in many ways and continues to do so as far as my health. Everyday is a new challenge and new beginning. The pain comes and goes. The migraines come and go. I know that my nerves are healing. God is working in my life. Again, thank you all so much for the encouragement during this time in my life.

5:48 PM  
Blogger Liz Moore said...

Pain is something that brings me closer to God. Although pain is never fun or really welcomed. I'm so sorry to hear about the pain you have been in. I'm so glad that you are doing better. May God continue to heal you and may your pain become less and less as you become more well. Blessings and comfort!

9:34 AM  
Blogger preacherman said...

Thank you Liz. I appeciate you encouragement.

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Blogger God's Flame said...

What a coincidence? I wrote in my blog tonight on blogger regarding pain and how it strengthens us. I am in physical pain, and have been for some time. God has brought me a very long way, and I am grateful..however tonight I was having a hard time physically, and was tired of mopping so I decided to write. After blogging I decided to google "the benefits of pain", and came across your article in blogger. (I didn't think to search there-smile?). I also live in Texas..Mckinney. and I also preach and teach the gospel as God as called me to is comforting to know that someone else understands that pain can be good. Keep fighting preacherman, even as the Apostle Paul fought inspite of his thorn that God saw fit to leave in its place. 2 cor 12:9 visit me at

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